Mike Barnicle's debate with outgoing Arizona GOP-T Rep. John Shadegg on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" has gotten attention because of the outrageous new Grover Norquistian talking point about unemployment benefits that Shadegg trotted out:
BARNICLE: What about the fact that unemployment benefits pumped into the economy are an immediate benefit to the economy. Immediate.
SHADEGG: No, they're not. Unemployed people hire people? Really? I didn't know that.
BARNICLE: Unemployed people spend money, Congressman, because they have no money.
SHADEGG: Ah — ah — So your answer is it's the spending of money that drives the economy. I don't think that's right. It's the creation of jobs that drive the economy.
BARNICLE: But if you spend money in a variety store –
SHADEGG: Actually, the truth is the unemployed will spend as little of that money as they possibly can. Job creators create jobs.
A little later, Barnicle followed up on unemployment benefits:
BARNICLE: Let's go back to what you said about unemployment checks. Unemployment checks, people don't spend that money?
SHADEGG: No. They will spend as little as they can because they'll hold on to it as long as they can. In reality, they don't create jobs. You still haven't told me how unemployed people create jobs.
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